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I think the idea would be that companies who want to play with DCML will use a product (tivoli, HP, etc.) and will require the compliance of that product with DCML. This would simply force the vendors to adopt an RDF transform layer or some such (if they were to play nice in this space as well).

BTW, are you suggesting that people use straight up SQL for this type of data structure or UML? It seems like you're arguing both (and yes, I see UML having trouble gaining acceptance in large scale enterprises for development efforts, much less most things outside of that realm (read: IT asset representation, etc.))

It seems more likely to me that DCML-based tools will not use "real" DCML except as a data exchange standard, and that the tools will need to convert between other representations (SQL and tables, XML, CSVs, etc.) and DCML for communication with other tools.

My preference would be for a simpler format based on straight XML, but with a standard mapping to RDF. Simple tools could work with the simple XML format, but full data exchange and consolidation of complicated information sets would still be based on the more powerful RDF-based definitions.

There's at least one precedent for this sort of approach: one of the new weblogging syndication formats is straight XML, but includes a normative (part of the standard) transformation to/from RDF so that more generalized tools based on RDF can use the information in the feeds without requiring that all tools speak full RDF.

You can consider it comparable to using CSV files for simple data exchange, but moving up to XML if you need to handle Unicode, metadata, or odd delimiter situations (e.g. embedded commas, tabs, or double quote marks).

By the way, just to complicate matters further, the DCML framework draft uses OWL (an information modelling/ontology definition language built on top of RDF), which adds another layer of capabilities and complexity to the stack. I cannot imagine that anyone will expect users to work with straight DCML directly as a result -- I'd sooner work with ASN.1 binary files....

Given that the draft describes a framework, and not every applicable standard or definition, there's a lot of room for simpler specs, just as long as they can be rolled up into the DCML framework when needed.

Charles, loved your book - great work.

So DCML appears to be dead and buried... I checked out the Oasis site and saw closure notices from Mary in 2007... and all the TC's seem to be closed.

I haven't got time to dig into the reasons why it died (if it is really dead, but it looks at least dormant to me) but would love to know if it was for the reasons you highlight (complexity being a big one) or commercial / partnership difficulties.

I work at VMware and we are looking at creating an operational framework that pulls ITIL/ISO20000/COBIT closer to the technology to provide a more specific, actionable framework in response to customer requests.

Cheers
Steve

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